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发表于 20-10-2007 23:25:00|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
<p><font face="隶书" size="4">我在老茶馆发已婚单身买房贴一个星期了,可算法并不完美,故修改以后贴在此坛与大家共享。</font></p><p><font face="隶书" size="4">其实也实用于一家人的情况,如果你只在新加坡住五年以下。只要1100元租到套房子,不要买房。</font></p><p><font face="隶书" size="4">目前US的风险很快将在本地出现,大家不要被代理忽悠了。</font></p><p><font face="隶书" size="4">房地产前途不妙:去年房地产股票全面大涨反映今年房市高温,可今年年中地产股大跌,你们动动脑筋后面会如何?股市中庄家总是能捉摸未来的情形而提前离场。</font></p>
发表于 20-10-2007 23:33:00|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
小狮租房
&nbsp;<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><strong><font size="6"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font color="#f70938">更新版:房价上涨,已婚单身在新加坡</font></span><font face="Arial" color="#f70938"><span lang="EN-US">PR</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font color="#f70938">买</font></span><font face="Arial" color="#f70938"><span lang="EN-US">HDB</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font color="#f70938">合算吗?</font></span></font></strong></p><p> </p><p><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">假设你已婚要单身在新加坡生活(三)五年,然后回国(原因就不论了吧),买</span><span lang="EN-US">HDB</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">合算吗?让我们来算算账:</span><br/>&nbsp;</font></font></p><p><font face="隶书" size="4"><hr/></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">你打算买</span><span lang="EN-US">28</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万一套的四房,五年后升值</span><span lang="EN-US">3</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万,然后卖出,买卖手续费(代理,政府,律师)</span><span lang="EN-US">1.5</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万,你还要交55×</span><span lang="EN-US">12</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×</span><span lang="EN-US">5</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">=</span><span lang="EN-US">3300</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">元的社区理事费。</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">现在你需要为买房贷款80%,年利率</span><span lang="EN-US">4%</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">,你大约要付</span><span lang="EN-US">28</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×(0.8×0.04+0.2×0.02)×5=</span>5.04<span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万的利息,当然有人要说,我还钱了啊,没这么多吧!可是你还掉的部分每年</span><span lang="EN-US">2%</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">的存款利息是没有任何疑问的(尤其是CPF)。</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">这样你实际要为房子承担-</span><span lang="EN-US">3</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">+</span><span lang="EN-US">1.5</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">+</span><span lang="EN-US">0.33</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">+</span><span lang="EN-US">5.04</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">=</span><span lang="EN-US">3.87</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万的费用!</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">现在我们拿这笔钱去租房,一个月</span><span lang="EN-US">500</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">的话,五年只要</span><span lang="EN-US">3</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万。你亏了</span><span lang="EN-US">0.87</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万呢!</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">有人说我房子要出租的呀,好的你找两个人每月</span><span lang="EN-US">800</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">元租你两间房,五年可得</span><span lang="EN-US">4.8</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万,这样你净嫌3.93 万。</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">可是我还没算你买家具(电)的费用呢,要多少你应明白,不行就去</span><span lang="EN-US">IKEA</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">与</span><span lang="EN-US">Courts</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">去看看吧!为了租房,你是不是要买更多家具?</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font face="隶书" size="4">有人又要说你租出的房租太便宜了吗?可是房客的水电上网费用我没有算,我算的是你净得。</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">五年中你零碎地投入了28×</span><span lang="EN-US">20%</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">(首付)+0.6(买入费用)+</span><span lang="EN-US">5</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×</span><span lang="EN-US">12</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×</span><span lang="EN-US">28</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×0.8/12/30</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">(月供本金部分)+5.04(月供利息部分)+0.33(社区理事费)=</span><span lang="EN-US">15.31</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万的费用,最大净回报为</span><span lang="EN-US">3.93</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">/</span><span lang="EN-US">15.31</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">=</span><span lang="EN-US">25.7</span><span lang="EN-US">%</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">。最大年回报为</span><span lang="EN-US">5.1%</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">。</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">新加坡房租高于国内,假设现在买,然后离开Spore,按你据说整套租出1200/月,年回报为(0.12×12×5-3.87)/</span><span lang="EN-US">15.31</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">/5=4.4%。</span></font></font></p><p><font face="隶书" size="4"><hr/></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">你打算买</span><span lang="EN-US">28</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万一套的四房,五年后升值</span><span lang="EN-US">3</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万,然后卖出,买卖手续费(代理,政府,律师)</span><span lang="EN-US">1.5</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万,你还要交55×</span><span lang="EN-US">12</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×</span><span lang="EN-US">5</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">=</span><span lang="EN-US">3300</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">元的社区理事费。</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">现在你付清房款而不贷款,你大约要损失</span><span lang="EN-US">28</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×0.02×5=</span>2.8<span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万的利息。</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">这样你实际要为房子承担-</span><span lang="EN-US">3</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">+</span><span lang="EN-US">1.5</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">+</span><span lang="EN-US">0.33</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">+</span><span lang="EN-US">2.8</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">=</span><span lang="EN-US">1.63</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万的费用!</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">现在我们拿这笔钱去租房,一个月</span><span lang="EN-US">500</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">的话,五年只要</span><span lang="EN-US">3</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万。你嫌了</span><span lang="EN-US">4.63</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万呢!</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">有人说我房子要出租的呀,好的你找两个人每月</span><span lang="EN-US">800</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">元租你两间房,五年可得</span><span lang="EN-US">4.8</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万,这样你净嫌9.43 万。</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">可是我还没算你买家具(电)的费用呢,要多少你应明白,不行就去</span><span lang="EN-US">IKEA</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">与</span><span lang="EN-US">Courts</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">去看看吧!为了租房,你是不是要买更多家具?</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font face="隶书" size="4">有人又要说你租出的房租太便宜了吗?可是房客的水电上网费用我没有算,我算的是你净得。</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">五年中你零碎地投入了28(全付)+0.6(买入费用)+</span>2.8<span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">(利息部分)+0.33(社区理事费)=</span><span lang="EN-US">31.73</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万的费用,最大净回报为</span><span lang="EN-US">9.43</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">/</span><span lang="EN-US">31.73</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">=</span><span lang="EN-US">29.7</span><span lang="EN-US">%</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">。最大年回报为</span><span lang="EN-US">5.9%</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">。</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="隶书"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">新加坡房租高于国内,假设现在买,然后离开Spore,按你据说整套租出1200/月,年回报为(0.12×12×5-1.63)/</span><span lang="EN-US">31.73</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">/5=3.5%。</span></font></font></p>
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发表于 20-10-2007 23:35:00|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
<font size="4">&nbsp;</font><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"></span></p><font size="4"><hr/></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">你打算买</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">28</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万一套的四房,三年后升值</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万,然后卖出,买卖手续费(代理,政府,律师)</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1.5</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万,你还要交<font face="Arial">55×</font></span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">12</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×</span><span lang="EN-US">3</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">=</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1980</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">元的社区理事费。</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">现在你需要为买房贷款<font face="Arial">80%</font>,年利率</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">4%</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">,你大约要付</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">28</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×(0.8×0.04+0.2×0.02)×3=</span>3.024</font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万的利息,当然有人要说,我还钱了啊,没这么多吧!可是你还掉的部分每年</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">2%</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">的存款利息是没有任何疑问的<font face="Arial">(</font>尤其是<font face="Arial">CPF)</font>。</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">这样你实际要为房子承担-</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">+</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1.5</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">+</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">0.198</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">+</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">3.024</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">=</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">3.722</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万的费用!</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">现在我们拿这笔钱去租房,一个月</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">500</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">的话,三年只要</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1.8</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万。你亏了</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1.922</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万呢!</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">有人说我房子要出租的呀,好的你找两个人每月</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">800</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">元租你两间房,三年可得</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">2.88</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万,这样你净嫌<font face="Arial">0.958 </font>万。</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">可是我还没算你买家具(电)的费用呢,要多少你应明白,不行就去</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">IKEA</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">与</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">Courts</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">去看看吧!为了租房,你是不是要买更多家具?</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font size="4">有人又要说你租出的房租太便宜了吗?可是房客的水电上网费用我没有算,我算的是你净得。</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">五年中你零碎地投入了<font face="Arial">28×</font></span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">20%</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">(首付)+<font face="Arial">0.6</font>(买入费用)+<font face="Arial">3×</font></span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">12</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×</span><span lang="EN-US">28</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×0.8/12/30</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">(月供本金部分)+</span><font face="Arial">3.024</font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">(月供利息部分)<font face="Arial">+0.198(</font>社区理事费<font face="Arial">)</font>=</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1</span></font><span lang="EN-US">1.662</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万的费用,最大净回报为</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">0.958</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">/</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1</span></font><span lang="EN-US">1.662</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">=</span><span lang="EN-US">8.2<font face="Arial">%</font></span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">。最大年回报为</span><span lang="EN-US">2<font face="Arial">.7%</font></span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">。</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">假设现在买,然后离开<font face="Arial">Spore</font>,按你据说整套租出<font face="Arial">1200</font>/月,年回报为(<font face="Arial">0.12×12×3</font>-<font face="Arial">3.722</font>)/</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1</span></font><span lang="EN-US">1.662</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">/<font face="Arial">3</font>=<font face="Arial">1.</font>7<font face="Arial">%</font>。</span></font></p><font size="4"><hr/></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">你打算买</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">28</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万一套的四房,三年后升值</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万,然后卖出,买卖手续费(代理,政府,律师)</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1.5</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万,你还要交<font face="Arial">55×</font></span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">12</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×</span><span lang="EN-US">3</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">=</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1980</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">元的社区理事费。</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">现在你付清房款而不贷款,你大约要损失</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">28</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×0.02×3=</span>1.68</font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万的利息。</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">这样你实际要为房子承担-</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">+</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1.5</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">+</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">0.198</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">+</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1.68</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">=</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">2.378</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万的费用!</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">现在我们拿这笔钱去租房,一个月</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">500</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">的话,三年只要</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">1.8</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万。你亏了</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">0.578</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万呢!</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">有人说我房子要出租的呀,好的你找两个人每月</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">800</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">元租你两间房,三年可得</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">2.88</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万,这样你净嫌<font face="Arial">2.302 </font>万。</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">可是我还没算你买家具(电)的费用呢,要多少你应明白,不行就去</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">IKEA</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">与</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">Courts</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">去看看吧!为了租房,你是不是要买更多家具?</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font size="4">有人又要说你租出的房租太便宜了吗?可是房客的水电上网费用我没有算,我算的是你净得。</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">五年中你零碎地投入了<font face="Arial">28</font>(全付)+<font face="Arial">0.6</font>(买入费用)+</span><font face="Arial">1.68</font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">(利息部分)<font face="Arial">+0.198(</font>社区理事费<font face="Arial">)</font>=</span><font face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US">30.478</span></font><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万的费用,最大净回报为<font face="Arial">2.302</font>/<font face="Arial">30.478</font>=</span><span lang="EN-US">7.6<font face="Arial">%</font></span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">。最大年回报为</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Arial">2.</font>5<font face="Arial">%</font></span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">。</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font size="4">新加坡房租高于国内,假设现在买,然后离开<font face="Arial">Spore</font>,按你据说整套租出<font face="Arial">1200</font>/月,年回报为(<font face="Arial">0.12×12×3</font>-<font face="Arial">2.378</font>)/<font face="Arial">30.478</font>/<font face="Arial">3</font>=2.1<font face="Arial">%</font>。</font></span></p>
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<font face="细明体" size="4">&nbsp;</font><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"></span></p><font face="细明体" size="4"><hr/></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="细明体"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">你打算买</span><span lang="EN-US">20</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万一套在NTU前的四房,三年后既不升值也没贬值,然后卖出,买卖手续费(代理,政府,律师)</span><span lang="EN-US">1.5</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万,你还要交55×</span><span lang="EN-US">12</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×</span><span lang="EN-US">3</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">=</span><span lang="EN-US">1980</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">元的社区理事费。</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="细明体"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">现在你需要为买房贷款80%,年利率</span><span lang="EN-US">4%</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">,你大约要付</span><span lang="EN-US">20</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×(0.8×0.04+0.2×0.02)×3=</span>2.16<span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万的利息,当然有人要说,我还钱了啊,没这么多吧!可是你还掉的部分每年</span><span lang="EN-US">2%</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">的存款利息是没有任何疑问的(尤其是CPF)。</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="细明体"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">这样你实际要为房子承担</span><span lang="EN-US">1.5</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">+</span><span lang="EN-US">0.198</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">+</span><span lang="EN-US">2.16</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">=</span><span lang="EN-US">3.858</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万的费用!</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="细明体"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">现在我们拿这笔钱去租房,一个月</span><span lang="EN-US">500</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">的话,三年只要</span><span lang="EN-US">1.8</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万。你亏了</span><span lang="EN-US">2.058</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万呢!</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="细明体"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">有人说我房子要出租的呀,好的你找两个人每月</span><span lang="EN-US">800</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">元租你两间房,三年可得</span><span lang="EN-US">2.88</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万,这样你净嫌0.822万。如果不能找二个房客,你亏啊!</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="细明体"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">可是我还没算你买家具(电)的费用呢,要多少你应明白,不行就去</span><span lang="EN-US">IKEA</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">与</span><span lang="EN-US">Courts</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">去看看吧!为了租房,你是不是要买更多家具?</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font face="细明体" size="4">有人又要说你租出的房租太便宜了吗?可是房客的水电上网费用我没有算,我算的是你净得。</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="细明体"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">五年中你零碎地投入了20×</span><span lang="EN-US">20%</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">(首付)+0.6(买入费用)+3×</span><span lang="EN-US">12</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×</span><span lang="EN-US">20</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">×0.8/12/30(月供本金部分)+</span>2.16<span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">(月供利息部分)+0.198(社区理事费)=</span><span lang="EN-US">8.558</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万的费用,最大净回报为</span><span lang="EN-US">0.822</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">/</span><span lang="EN-US">8.558</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">=</span><span lang="EN-US">9.6%</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">。最大年回报为</span><span lang="EN-US">3.2%</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">。</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="细明体"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">假设现在买,然后离开Spore,按你据说整套租出1200/月,年回报为(0.12×12×3-</span><span lang="EN-US">3.858</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">)/</span><span lang="EN-US">8.558</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">/3=1.8%。</span></font></font></p><font face="细明体" size="4"><hr/></font><p><font face="细明体"><font size="4"><strong><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font color="#ff0066">结论:</font></span></strong><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">贷款买房自住加出租五年最合算!!! 如果贷款买房自住三年加出租给一个人则没有亏,不过说句实话,找房客你会很累的。<b><u><font color="#f70938">如果你能用1100元租一套房子,不要买。</font></u></b></span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="细明体"><font size="4"><strong><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font color="#f70938">注意:</font></span></strong><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">这是最乐观的回报,你要预期房价五年上涨</span><span lang="EN-US">10%</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">,</span><span lang="EN-US">IKEA</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">与</span><span lang="EN-US">Courts</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">或原卖主免费赠你家具,你的两个房客永远租你的房子,等等。</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="细明体" size="4"> </font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="细明体"><font size="4"><strong><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font color="#ff0033">我的建议:</font></span></strong><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">(</span><span lang="EN-US">1</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">)做个无产者,抱著钱到华尔街转转,今年这个行情投入</span><span lang="EN-US">10</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万嫌</span><span lang="EN-US">2</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万好象不难</span><span lang="EN-US">; </span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">(</span><span lang="EN-US">2</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">)不然就在国内买首付为</span><span lang="EN-US">40</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万人民币的房子租出,好象也不难得到这个回报</span></font></font><span lang="EN-US"><br/><font face="细明体" size="4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;; </font></span><font face="细明体"><font size="4"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">(</span><span lang="EN-US">3</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">)加入公民,拿</span><span lang="EN-US">3</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">万奖金及用</span><span lang="EN-US">2%在HDB</span><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">贷款买新房,大大的合算,不过嫌的钱你可要留下养老啊,因为新加坡没有养老金,跟中国农村老人的境遇一样。</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="细明体" size="4"> </font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="细明体"><font size="4"><strong><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font color="#ff0033">后记:</font></span></strong><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;">周末无聊,找道数学题做做,各位大虾拍砖吧!</span></font></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font face="细明体" size="4"> </font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font face="细明体" size="4">1. 我所指的买房人是MBA(married but available),开个玩笑啊!</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font face="细明体" size="4">2. 我在分析投资价值,生活质量不在此贴讨论之列,只是想对常听到“<font color="#ff0033">不买房者不会投资,最少捞个白住</font>”提出质疑。</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font face="细明体" size="4">3. 将房子交给代理出租,自己已对租客无法控制,有非法移民在你家被捉到,坐牢的是你而不是代理。</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font face="细明体" size="4">4. 新加坡房租高于国内,如果你租房只是能抵消买房成本尔后稍多了一点,<font color="#f70938">何必买房</font>!<br/>5. 五房代表新加坡top ~30%人的生活水平,我们出国不是为了降级生活的吧!</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font face="细明体" size="4">6.其实你这样买房只不过是为银行,代理及HDB作贡献而已。</font></span></p>
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发表于 21-10-2007 00:21:00|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
<p>买房这种决策,不是这么简单计算可以下结论的</p><p>有很多其它因素,也要结合买家自身的情况来做现金预算和投资分析</p><p>楼主的这套算法,有点粗糙了.</p><p>那个能1100块租房子就不要买房的结论,更是不敢苟同啊</p><p></p>
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发表于 21-10-2007 01:45:00|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
<p><font face="宋体" size="4">楼主的帖子写得很好,赞一个。加精了。</font></p><p><font face="宋体" size="4">问题是:在新加坡,在这个时候或者将来,1100元能租到一套房子吗?现在2+1最少都是1200元了。</font></p><p><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font color="#ff0066"><strong></strong></font></span></p><p><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><b><u><font color="#f70938"></font></u></b></span></p><p><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><strong><u><font color="#f70938"></font></u></strong></span></p>
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发表于 21-10-2007 07:12:00|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
<p><font face="细明体" size="4">偶或发贴,多谢米版主惠识。再陈述几点:</font></p><p><font face="细明体" size="4">1. 房产纪经不等于理财专家,因动机不同。<br/>2. 我所有的假设均未提及房市转向的情形。<br/>3. 如果1200能租到房子(如向JTC),风险只有100元 。如果贷款买房,自己引入部分风险,获利很难,尤其是买房后回国再出租,形同为人作嫁。如果全额付款,可能最好不要再来此坛,应与投资无缘之人。<br/>4. 来新加坡的人很多是MOM识得的talent,要自己多做功课。新加坡公开的信息(甚至是每则新闻)都是有商业利益驱动的,这点与国内不同!很多MM买100元的衣服可能想很久很久,可买房决定只需1分钟,因张三李四均如此而为。<br/>5. 数据基本合理,因我彻底了解买房过程。我知道象估价费甚至离谱的代理手续费GST也得由买房的人出的情形,不在计算公式内。大众化的贴子只能用简单的估算过程。</font></p><p><font face="细明体" size="4">最后以米老鼠唐老鸭的动画片一个场景结尾: 唐老鸭发明了全自动烤鸭机,可如何找鸭子来烤呢?老鸭唱著歌带着一群鸭同胞,自己率先进炉子,炉子的启动是在老鸭从另一个出口出来后。</font></p><p><font face="细明体" size="4"><br/>大家见仁见智,度个愉快周末!</font></p>
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发表于 21-10-2007 09:25:00|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
<p>算那么多不累吗?</p><p>该买就买,想买就买,只要具备想买的动机和钱就可以了.</p><p>不想买就继续租嘛.</p><p>其实还是钱的问题.如果钱相对不少的话,那么拿一部分出来买点东西,为货币流通做点贡献也好.</p><p>如果钱不是那么多,那么就量力而为做些最该做的事情.</p>[em04]妇人之言,无法跟各位大师相提并论.
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发表于 21-10-2007 09:03:00|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
<p>经纪的话从来不信!</p><p>还是那句老话,自住的赶紧,投资的观望~!~~~</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font face="细明体" size="4">2. 我在分析投资价值,生活质量不在此贴讨论之列,只是想对常听到“<font color="#ff0033">不买房者不会投资,最少捞个白住</font>”提出质疑。</font></span></p><p><span style="mso-ascii-font-family: times new roman; mso-hansi-font-family: times new roman;"><font size="4">这一点严重同意!!!强烈质疑。</font></span></p>[em17][em17]
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发表于 21-10-2007 15:07:00|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
<p>该买就买,钱放在银行也生不出多少钱来,自己住多舒服自在,合住或租房总没自己的房住得好。我认为。</p><p></p>
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